Aggressive cancer in dog

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31 Mar 2014 15:59 #42434 by K9x9
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Thank you Denise. I feel bad I made her sick but she has an aggressive cancer and I was trying to give her an aggressive treatment. I will back doen with the drops and maybe try it in her food or broth again. Maybe the capsule was too intense for her stomach.

Otherwise she is her normal happy self and was out running the fields and woods with her sister a couiple of times yesterday. The meloxicam may be playing a part also. She seems sensitive to it as I had to split her one a day dose into two because she got so drowsy. Vet wants me to keep using it for pain and inflammation.

Thanks so much. I certainly don't want to make her sicker.

Barb

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01 Apr 2014 14:50 #42470 by K9x9
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I am having a problem with Robyn. When I got home I backed her dose down to 4 drops in her food. All went well. I gave her another 4 drops in a little bit of food the next hour. Was fine until a little over an hour and then threw up. I managed to get some MSM/DMO on her muzzle. She didn't want to touch her food but ate a small dog biscuit which stayed down. Left some food for her for overnight but she didn't touch it.

This morning I just gave her food- no MSM. Unactivated in her water. 20 minutes later she threw her food up.

She is outside again while I am at work. She is still peppy. I am just afraid she is not getting enough food in her system.

I think I will have to not giver her any MSM until she keeps food down. I hate doing that as it appears her mouth tumor has not grown any larger. It almost feels a little smaller when I measure with my hands on her muzzle. Not dramatic but maybe a little smaller.

Any suggestions? I know we will lose time if I completely stop it but she needs the nutrition. Luckily she was a little overweight so has a little reserve. She is a little leery of food because she has thrown up.

If I stop for a day then maybe start with just one drop?

Thanks for any help.
Barb

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01 Apr 2014 17:32 #42486 by Horsefeathers
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Yes! Stop till her system rebalances and settles down. You might want to help her with some Pepto if she'll take it. Comes in liquid and pill form. Then start over and work up carefully. That is what I had to do with my Lady. Her muzzle may be sore from the MMS and DMSO. My horse was sensitive to DMSO and I had to go to just MMS. Perhaps alternate it? Hate to see you loose ground if the tumor is getting smaller. Also, check into Bentonite Living Clay. It will help clear the body of toxins. I give it to my new, used dog Biscuit, in her food. I make up some and store it in a jar then put some in with her meal and add a little bit of water if it seems to thick. She also gets a bit of canned food with her kibble to help it all taste good. And, Little Miss Fuss Budget seems to gobble it up quite well. May be able to hide some MMS in there?
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01 Apr 2014 17:52 #42490 by K9x9
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Thnak you so much for responding! This is all new to me and I hate to do trial and error on Robyn as she is the one who suffers. I will rest her today and see if she keeps the food down. I won't even put the MMS in her water and then will start at a smaller dose.

Is there some other place I can put the MSM/DMSO that will get in her system other than her muzzle? Rev Ray said to put it as close as possible. Her tumor on the roof of her mouth looked better after I put some there but I don't think she will let me do that again as I felt it probably stung.

I will try the pepto. I have some slippery elm I was going to use when I got home but I will use pepto.

I will look into the clay but I live in a rural area so everything usually has to be done online.

Robyn & I thank you,
Barb

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01 Apr 2014 18:14 - 01 Apr 2014 18:21 #42492 by Horsefeathers
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Yes, I had to get mine online as well. I would suggest using the brand Living Clay if you chose to add that. You might find some in a health food store if there is one near you. Also, if you do use clay, it might help soothe the soreness on her muzzle.

You might want to try some MMS and clay paste? Perhaps someone else can chime in with some helpful ideas.

I know what you mean. I hate having to do hit and miss but I figure at least I tried! It must be better than doing nothing as we all know what that outcome will be for sure!

If you choose to do so here is a link for the clay I use. At the moment it is still free shipping for orders of 40$ or more. www.naturescleansingclay.com/newsletter_specials.htm
I have talked to these people on the phone and they are real nice. You might want to check and see if you can get something "next day" if you are willing to pay shipping. Don't hesitate to call their number. They do respond as quickly as possible!
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01 Apr 2014 22:07 #42508 by K9x9
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I have ordered the clay and it will be shipped priority mail so probably 3 days.

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02 Apr 2014 12:25 #42554 by K9x9
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Thank you Rev Ray for taking time to help Robyn. Robyn kept her food down yesterday and this morning so will start up the MMS again today but lower dose and build. I will add the DMSO internal also and try to apply the mixture somewhere she will tolerate. I would love to get it on her tumor in her mouth as that appeared to make a change in the color of it not as firery red.

I feel bad I gave her a setback but was trying to get a hold on this cancer.

Is the clay ok to use or does it counteract the MMS at all?

Thanks so much

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03 Apr 2014 13:30 #42598 by K9x9
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Just an update-
We are back on MMS1 as of yesterday. I cut back to 2 drops MMS/DMSO. I syringed one dose into her and put capsules for two other doses. Robyn has held her food down. I moved to syringing 3 drops this AM. She has unactivated MMS in her water so she can get it into her system while I am at work. I will try 4 drops when I get home and check for nausea.

Unfortunately, Robyn is a very smart dog and will not eat any food that she ate when she was throwing up. So I need to go slowly as much s I would like to give her more.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to rub the MMS/DMSO on a dog? She won't let me put it on the roof of her mouth or muzzle anymore. I have gotten some under her lower jaw. The tumor is on the roof of her mouth and up behind her upper gum, nose area. She has thick fur so should I continue trying to get the lower jaw or try her foot pads?

Also, how do you prevent the capsules from disintegrating while you wait to add the DMSO and give to dog? They start to melt just as I try to give it to her.

Thanks in advance,
Barb & Robyn

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03 Apr 2014 15:40 #42607 by K9x9
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OK Rev Ray. I will try and give her more drops. I just don't want her throwing up again. I will also add back some of the grains of MMS2 capsule a couple of times a day. I will try to keep applying the MMS/DMSO and will try to use MMS?DMSO as a spray in her mouth.

She is fighting me quite a bit.

Here is believing it will keep her from nausea.

Barb

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