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Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 07 Feb 2011 20:11 #494

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Although the end (general health) is an excellent thing,
the means (to be called Bishops etc.) do not justify this end.

I once wrote to Jim about my disagreement on this matter and failed to receive a proper response.

Why not call yourselves an Imams? :dry:
Not much better right?

If you were to call yourselves "ministers" then that would be more neutral, playing the religious and political overtones without compromising the proper respect due to specific religions.

It's just like the "miracle" part of the initial MMS product.
I was allergic to this term as so many others claim to do that (while robbing millions from innocent people).
Although i'm not fond of what the FDA has done in the past, i'm glad that they "made you" reconsider the products' name.

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 08 Feb 2011 13:42 #506

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I think the most important things we need to understand is why Bishop Jim humble create a Church of health and healing. He is using the best way to get people to know MMS which is good for mankind health.

So why should we be so specific when the objective is right... doing good deeds to reduce human suffering from diseases?

Instead we should help him with more right and better way to proved MMS is working for all the Country FDA. The agencies should not use Medicine as big profits business first of all... what i feel is that, the pharmaceutical is looking at MMS as their true competitors for many years to come. That is why is has to be stop.

No one know better than those who had taken the very first step to use and get the self answer.

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 08 Feb 2011 19:23 #512

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I think that Edwin is on the right track. The issues around Health and Spirituality have been greatly confused by government and religious institutions, to the point where it seems an ordinary human can't "figure them out."

But most people have a basic sense of fairness and of our innate rights, and realize we have the capacity to look at things and make our own decisions about what's true and what's good for us and our loved ones. Having a Church gives us something to focus peoples' attention on what is right around issues of Health Freedom, to invoke their sense of fairness. This was seen in England when their trade organization left a Genesis II branch alone in the middle of a raid because they showed them their Minister of Health certificate.

Institutions like the Catholic Church thrive on lies and secrecy. The purposes of Genesis II are to do the right thing, and to do the right thing. In that regard, we are uniformly against secrecy and the misuse of power. As a Bishop, Jim Humble will not use his prerogatives of organizational power to invade the life of another being, only to enable the effectiveness of our mission.

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 08 Feb 2011 21:01 #513

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Jim's intentions, i know with an almost perfect certainty, is indeed, to promote health for all. :)

If the "Catholic Church thrives on lies and secrecy" as you claim brtanner,
why would Genesis II want to copy any of its' evil "political" structure?

Wouldn't it be logical to get away from anything that would attach the Genesis II church to, and perhaps eventually even accuse it of any same "supposed" lies and secrecy that you have discerned?

If my understanding of Genesis II policies is correct, it has a neutral regards to anyone's personal religious beliefs.
Is there a breach of policy here?

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 08 Feb 2011 21:23 #515

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In order to belong to the Church, you're only required to aspire to do the right thing and to help others. It's a simple, but valuable, spiritual practice.

This is the situation as it stands. I doubt your criticisms will change it or dissuade those who want to help through the institution, such as it is.

Why not focus on helping others discover and use the powerful methods we're sharing?

Bruce

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 08 Feb 2011 21:31 #516

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I beg your pardon, but who is criticizing who here?

Besides, there is positive criticism which everyone must cope with.
It can be for a better personal or collective improvement.
Isn't that why companies hire gifted talkers to motivate their employees?

The Catholic Church has been around for almost two thousand years now and has taken loads of criticism (some good and a lot not so good). It is on an ongoing learning process as it continues to teach the core of the message, namely Christ's Passion, Death and Resurrection.

The Genesis church hasn't been around for a year yet and it is perfect?

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 08 Feb 2011 23:52 #519

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Just treat it as the WAY

Anyone has a better way to further smooth the way, please advice..... Together we can make this world a better place to stay than always blame on this and that this earth are going to become an extinct place for human race.

Weather has change, Natural food also change its genetics, Water has been treated with many kind of chemicals and yet many agencies is blaming on the global environment that cause human diseases or reducing the human mortality.

Could this MMS become part of the solutions to human health and mortality? Only time will tell.....

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Re: Genesis II - mimicking Catholic Church (and others) 09 Feb 2011 01:40 #522

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Please don't take anything personally. Nothing ever is personal until taken that way.

Nothing in the world of form is, was, or ever will be "perfect." My opinion only. We do the best we can. That best is approached more effectively when we're not in resistance to whatever we project on other people, or otherwise in confrontation.

I appreciate your devotion to your path and your beliefs, but to me the question is what was Yeshua, may he be praised, was really teaching or embodying. For peace to emerge in this world, that's what we need, and it needs to be something that is accepting of everyone alive, whatever shape or belief system they come in.

Let's use the tools we're being graced with in this time to help the world.

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