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TOPIC: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker

Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 17 Nov 2011 23:06 #8283

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ENT simply means (Ear, nose and throat physician)

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 18 Nov 2011 00:55 #8286

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Michael,
thanks for this great pictures.
I like your set up, simple and everywhere to find.
This will help a lot of peoples, your pictures shows everything in great detail, no explanation needed.
Thanks again and have a nice day
Peter

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 18 Nov 2011 03:22 #8287

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I just ordered some pyrex and stoppers. I'm going to make a bubbler setup, using an air pump rather than heat to transfer the gas,
With a manifold to create smaller bubbles.

I want to put some up and test it every day to see what the falloff is (if any).
I have checked with some of my sources I use for chemistry questions.... and I don't understand why you have to bubble into saline solution, unless its a buffer to bring the pH of the distilled water up to around neutral. The gas itself will (should) keep fine in any water that isn't acidic, be it saline or no.... if this is the case, then sodium bicarbonate may also work.

I will probably try 2 methods.... one with MMS and citric acid, and one with 5% NaClO2 and 6% HCl. The HCl will convert 100% of the available ClO2, whereas the Citric Acid will only release about 2/3 and hold the rest in reserve in the clorous acid. You can't use HcL with MMS for this conversion because the reaction would be pretty violent. You would need a 25% HCl to get the full potential.

From what I understand the ClO2 solution can remain viable for 30 days easily, as long as there is no UV exposure.

I am looking forward to the stuff getting here.

Please everyone remember that the gas in the small bottle is explosively flammable, and take all due care, and work in a well ventilated area.
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 18 Nov 2011 03:42 #8289

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the info and ideas. To use air to pump, do you just use an aquarium pump and put the hose down to the bottom of the smaller bottle (with the MMS & activator) letting it bubble up thus pushing more bubbles into the larger bottle?

I'm also wondering if this CDS can be sent through the mail. It has to be kept below about 50 deg. F according to Kalcker, but I wonder if it really loses much if it is not cold for a few days.

Anyway, this opens up a lot of possibilities. I was taking my CDS in 1/2 teaspoon doses today and it sure goes down a lot easier. I think it could solve a lot of problems people have had trying to take MMS orally. I'm not getting any nausea effect and I am not taking it with DMSO, which is how I have to take the oral doses if I don't want to have nausea.

Thanks again Steve for sharing,

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 18 Nov 2011 04:15 #8290

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The water needs to be cold to accept the gas. It aids the solubility greatly.
It can be kept (as I understand it) at room temps. Light is the big enemy.
Also it's hard on plastic, including HDPE. I would recommend storing in Amber or Blue Glass, with a phenolic cap.


I use an air/vacuum pump in the lab, but an aquarium pump will work fine. My plan is a 4 oz flask with a 2 hole stopper for the gas generation.
Glass tube will run to bottom of flask for air intake.... gas will exhaust through a shorter glass tube into a 500 ml Flask with a glass tube to the bottom, and a diffuser to make small bubbles.
I'm using medical grade tubing to connect it all, but expect to have to change it regularly. I have played with this gas a bit , and it will pit plastic. Ideally, I think to keep plastisols out of the mix, you should probably use all pyrex tubing if you are setting up for any type of a permanent long term place to make it.
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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 18 Nov 2011 09:13 #8308

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Hi Michael

How do you take it? do you mix the 1/2 teaspoon dose with plain water and drink it (like regular MMS)? or you just drink it pure CDS?

you take 2.5ml CDS that equal 7.5 mms drops right?

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 19 Nov 2011 05:15 #8312

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Hi Steve,

Thanks very much for the additional info.



Hi Nir,

I did take some doses undiluted but it burns the throat some. So now I just put it in a shot glass and add 1 tablespoon or two of water and it goes down real well. Yes, I am taking 2.5 ml doses. It might be equivalent to 7.5 mms1 drops I don't know.

I think the CDS is more powerful and yet less harsh than MMS1 oral doses. Every dose I take is causing the mucous in my lungs to loosen up and I can cough it up. MMS1 never did this for me before, only MMS2 would do it. But now the CDS is doing it better than ever and there is nothing unpleasant about taking it. So it is pretty amazing so far. I did an enema with the .5 tsp. of CDS also and it was just like taking an oral dose, helped my lungs.

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 19 Nov 2011 09:04 #8314

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Thanks Michael

I am going to make some CDS today :-)

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Re: NEW ! CDS Clorine dioxide solution (MMS) by Andreas Kalcker 19 Nov 2011 14:21 #8315

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I am going to use HCI as an activator to dilute the gas into Sodium Bicarbonate Solution because it is also cancer healing substances...

Will test it taste and give feedback.....

Formula: 6% HCI as Steve stated and 1 grams SBS into 1000ml/cc filtered cold water

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