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04 Mar 2013 18:31 #31320 by branish
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ok made my citric acid did 3.4 ounce of water and 3.4 ounces of citric acid put it in a small juice botlle and swirled it and slightly shook it until crystals dissolvrd i put it in a dropper bottle and just waiting a few hours for the mms soution to be ready. hopefully everything i did will be sufficient .

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11 Apr 2013 04:19 #32434 by Tantraleon
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I have gotten Citric Acid 99.8% pure cristals powder. To reduce it to 50%... Do I do it by weight or by volume? Do I measure 50cc of destilled water, and then add enough cristal powder to complete 100 ccs... Or... Do i weigh 50grams of water and the pour 50 grams of Cristal powder???
I am also having trouble with the Cristal Powder of Sodium Cholrite... When I add the destilled water, it becommes cloudy, and remains that way. When I mix it equal parts with 50% Citric Acid, it turns a light yellow color... Not the dark caramel color I see on the video. What am I doing wrong? :(

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11 Apr 2013 13:37 - 11 Apr 2013 13:40 #32447 by pam
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It's all a weight measure - you would use equal measures of citric acid to water by weight. They're pretty close, though, so you could use a volume measure - but if you do that, then you need to pack down the citric acid. If you were to use 1/3 cup of water and 1/3 cup of citric acid, packed down, combine and dissolve the CA, (may have to use a little heat, I do) - then that's close enough to your 50% measure.

I'm not entirely sure what you're doing wrong. Are you sure you have a 28% sodium chlorite mixture (by weight)? Have you kept it out of UV light since making it? (I keep mine in a cupboard) - My understanding is that citric acid is only good for about 2 years - how old is your citric acid? I'm hoping that Steve will come in here with more suggestions, because I use SC in flakes and I'm thinking you use the powder - and he has more experience with that.. I know that when I make my 28% citric acid mixture, it also starts cloudy when I add the distilled water. I have to dissolve it, again, with heat on an electric burner on low.

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11 Apr 2013 15:17 #32454 by Steve
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Sound to me like the Sodium Chlorite isn't right.
It should clear up, not stay cloudy.

Weight is the way to measure.
Variance in grind and density can actually make a pretty big difference.

8 lbs of CA and 1 gallon of water... do not make 2 gallons by volume.

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11 Apr 2013 15:19 #32455 by Tantraleon
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Thank you Pam! I am using the Sodium Chlorite "flakes". I don’t know how old they are. Maybe that’s the reason that the MMS1 I’m making is coming out so weak in color, and much less gas odor. I make sure I keep it out of the light. All of the components are kept in dark solid containers inside other dark solid containers inside a cupboard. When I prepare the MMS1 I do it at night, with artificial incandescent light, so as to not take any chances with any light coming in the window. I am going to try buying new "flakes", and see what happens.

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11 Apr 2013 15:30 #32457 by Tantraleon
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Thank you Steve.
I only make MMS1 in small quantities. About 100 cc (ml), at a time so it doesn’t get old. I use your scale of 80% pure S.C., although I'm not really sure what’s the purity of the S.C. I'm purchasing. I have been reading that the new development is using Hydrochloric Acid instead of the Citric Acid… I'm going to see if I can get some and try it. How long are the S.C. “flakes” good for?
I keep them in an air tight glass jar in a cupboard.
How do I use the Hydrochloric Acid? How do I prepare it, and how do I mix it with the S.C.?
Many thanks again for all your help!!!

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11 Apr 2013 15:41 - 11 Apr 2013 15:47 #32460 by Steve
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Moisture, Contamination, and Sunlight are the enemy of Sodium Chlorite....

In a perfect world it will keep for 20 years, but as it gets transferred from barrel to container, it is exposed for at least a brief time.

Without knowing what the conditions were, it's hard to say what would cause it.


80% is the common term. It can be a bit varied, but the instructions are still good. Jim is aware of the slight differences.
MMS is 22.4% Chlorite if it's made with dead on 80% Substrate.
It's 22.9% if it's made with 82%, a few 10ths of a percentage aren't something to worry about.

HCl is just used in place of the CA at the same 1:1 ratio.
I have always been an advocate of making your own stuff, but I just want to say again, please be careful with HCL at 30% strength.
It is unforgiving, and painful. Use GLP practices, and safety gear.
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11 Apr 2013 18:40 #32467 by Macaddict08
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Steve,

What is the best way to store the HCL for long periods ?.... I have it in plastic right now, the way it was delivered to me, but was thinking I might put in glass.... should I do this ?

thanks

Clint

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27 May 2013 01:17 #33398 by trodan
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I think the original plastic bottle is designed to store HCL for extended periods, and is similair to the compound used for battery cases. If you used glass, which would also remain stable, should you drop it, or if something fell on it, the splashing acid might cause trouble. The high density plastic is much safer.

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