Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC: MMS vs CDS vs CDH

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 22 Apr 2016 19:33 #52026

  • ddb2222
  • ddb2222's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 7
  • Thank you received: 3
With so much conflicting information, it's hard to decide what I should really be doing.
I have trouble taking the MMS doses made from Citric Acid because of the taste.
- but then I saw a video about CDS made from the MMS gases, and it was mentioned that the taste is much more tolerable this way, however, I haven't bought the supplies needed to create the CDS so I haven't tried this yet.
- and then I saw another video talking about using HCl instead of Citric Acid and that it tastes better
- and then I've been reading about something called CDH... I'm not really clear on what this is and how it's different.
- I've also read about adding Sweet Leaf Stevia drops to help with the taste - is this a good idea or does it matter?
I currently do not have any health issues, but my goal is to hopefully understand this info enough that I can share with friends and family that I want to be able to help and of course I am looking for the easiest option to make that also doesn't taste terrible... I have purchased the HCl but I haven't tried it yet.

I have gone to many websites, watched a ton of videos and I bought Jim's book - Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Millennium (2011)... but the book doesn't mention too much about HCl or CDS and CDH.

I have found a great source at mmsinfo.org/ , but this topic is still so confusing to me.

Can someone please explain or direct me to a tool that will explain this to me so I can finally wrap my brain around it? :-)

Thank you,
Dee Dee Byrd
The following user(s) said Thank You: CLO2, Mojo4000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 22 Apr 2016 22:35 #52028

  • CLO2
  • CLO2's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 2019
  • Thank you received: 1898
Hi DDB.

Yes, the MMS world is getting more complex and it will take some time to understand it all for people new to MMS.

Jim Humble's latest book Health Recover Guide covers MMS1 very well, but intentionally leaves out CDS and CDH to keep confusion to a minimum. He may write a book about CDS and CDH at a later time.

The inventor of CDS, Andreas Kalcker , has written a book on CDS but it is only in Spanish.

I will write a short description comparing MMS1, CDS and CDH and post it on MMSinfo.org. You can contact me through the "Ask a Question" form at MMSinfo.org
The following user(s) said Thank You: fourfingerz, ddb2222

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 22 Apr 2016 23:40 #52029

  • ddb2222
  • ddb2222's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 7
  • Thank you received: 3
So are you the administrator of the MMSinfo.org website?
I love all of the printable PDFs. So much great information in one spot. It's very helpful.

I notice in your signature a website you have listed - CDHinfo.org but it says File Not Found. Is this one that's getting updated? Or just an old website that is no longer online?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 22 Apr 2016 23:49 #52030

  • pneumatician
  • pneumatician's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Expert Boarder
  • Expert Boarder
  • Posts: 145
  • Thank you received: 47
I think someone need to be infected with "catalogitis" and start a wiki page before is too late and a lot of info is here and there in a pandemoniun of domains. :D
The following user(s) said Thank You: CLO2

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

~~~
vulcania.cat

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 23 Apr 2016 00:10 #52031

  • CLO2
  • CLO2's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 2019
  • Thank you received: 1898
MMSwiki.is exists but needs major updating which will happen once the book is finally finished.

Yes, Scott's website CDHinfo.org seems to be gone. :(

And, yes, guilty as charged, I am responsible for mmsinfo.org/

PDF files are great to archive information. I wanted everything on one page. Simple.
The following user(s) said Thank You: fourfingerz, ddb2222

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf
Last Edit: by CLO2.

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 23 Apr 2016 00:43 #52032

  • ddb2222
  • ddb2222's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 7
  • Thank you received: 3

CLO2 wrote: Yes, Scott's website CDHinfo.org seems to be gone. :(


Although... thanks to your signature... I have discovered scsinfo.org/ which looks to be another very useful forum. Thanks!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 23 Apr 2016 02:50 #52033

  • CLO2
  • CLO2's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 2019
  • Thank you received: 1898
Ray's forum is undergoing some major rework and may not work properly.

Another website to visit is Michael Harrah's http://michaelharrah.us/ It has not been updated in a while, but you will still find lots of useful info there. He used to frequent this forum often.
The following user(s) said Thank You: fourfingerz, Mojo4000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

2 ml of 3000 ppm original CDS equals a 1 drop MMS1 dose in a normal stomach
www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/mms1_equates_to_cdh_and_cds.pdf
Websites: MMSinfo.org * www.facebook.com/groups/ebolacures/
YouTube Instructional Videos: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXv6hCnvjMmGg4_AYq4wlNw
Answers to many questions are in Jim Humble's books: jhbooks.org/
How to use CDS, CDH in Protocols: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/CDS_CDH_and_Protocols-2.pdf

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 23 Apr 2016 10:13 #52036

  • Truthquester
  • Truthquester's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 881
  • Thank you received: 779
Hi ddb22222,
Maybe the following will help clarify the MMS World of Products:

4 Ways of Creating and Ingesting MMS/CLO2 in a Nutshell

First we must start off with a standardized drop measurement so we can compare apples to apples when looking at the following 4 ways of making and ingesting MMS/CLO2.

In the past Jim Humble decided that he would use a dropper that produced 24 drops per ml. That being the case, 1/24th of a ml (1 drop) of MMS (22.4% Sodium Chlorite) will have the potential to produce 6.7mg of CLO2 (Chlorine Dioxide).

Following are the different methods that have been developed and used to produce CLO2 from MMS for the purpose of ingestion.

To make the following methods easier to understand and compare, only 1 drop of MMS is discussed within each method. In practice however, normally more than 1 drop is used.

Method #1 - Stabilized Oxygen - Let’s say 1 drop of MMS NOT activated and added to 100ml of water:
(This is basically what Jim Humble was doing in the beginning without realizing it to cure Malaria)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with 100ml of water, we will not have any activation externally and so we will get the following:
- 6.7mg X 0% activation = 0.00mg of CLO2
- However, 100% of the CLO2 will be generated when the MMS comes in contact with the acid of our stomach.

Method #2 - MMS1 - 1 MMS drop activated for 30 seconds and then added to 120ml of water:
(The way Jim uses MMS to make CLO2 now)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid for 30 seconds, we will have only partially activated it to about 10% of its maximum activation and so we will get approximately the following:
- 6.7mg X 10% activation = 0.67mg of CLO2
- The other 90% of the CLO2 will be generated when the remaining MMS comes in contact with the acid in our stomach.

Method #3 - CDS Overnight Method - 1 MMS drop activated overnight and absorbed into distilled water:
(Developed by Andreas Kalcker and friends, then simplified by Charlotte Lackney)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid and allow the CLO2 gas coming from the drop to absorb into distilled water in a sealed container for 12 hours, we will have only partially extracted the CLO2 from the drop, to about 37% of its maximum amount and so we will get approximately the following:
- 6.7mg X 37% activation = 2.5mg of CLO2
- The other 63% of the CLO2 is lost in the process of making CDS.
- Note that there are no drops of MMS or acid in this - it’s pure CLO2 in distilled water.

Method #4 - CDH Method - 1 MMS drop activated for 8 hours in a bottle with water:
(Developed by Scott McRae and Charlotte Lackney)
When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid and 22 drops of water for 8 hours in a sealed glass bottle, we will have only partially activated it to about 50% of its maximum activation and so we will get approximately the following:
- 6.7mg X 50% activation = 3.35mg of CLO2
- The other 50% of the CLO2 will be generated when the remaining MMS comes in contact with the acid in our stomach.
- Note that all the ingredients added together equals 24 drop or 1ml and each ml contains 1 drop of MMS.

Well that's it in a nutshell - let us know if you have any questions.

May you be well,
Scott
The following user(s) said Thank You: ddb2222, Mojo4000

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

I'm the creator of CDH with the help of CLO2 (Charlotte Lackney)
1 drop of MMS (at 24 drops per ml) contains 6.7mg (6700ppm) of CLO2
Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS
Therefore, 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
The main difference is that the drop of MMS is only 7 to 10% activated in the cup before being consumed while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops.

MMS vs CDS vs CDH 23 Apr 2016 13:33 #52038

  • ddb2222
  • ddb2222's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Fresh Boarder
  • Posts: 7
  • Thank you received: 3
Thank you, Scott... That does help my brain understand this all a little better.

However, what I still don't understand is why people aren't talking about Method #1 (as you've described) more. This seems to be by far the easiest way to take it and to my understanding, with zero taste. (I have seen mention of putting a HCl drop in a capsule to take with this in case you don't have enough acid in your stomach.)
Is it just the fact that it's not what Jim Humble does and hasn't been tested as much as MMS1?

Just curious... What is your preferred method and what makes you choose it more over the other methods??

Thanks!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last Edit: by ddb2222.

Petition to Stay Daniel Smith's Sentence and End Malaria Death (Change.org)

Thank you!

www.StandByDaniel.com

Who is Daniel Smith?

Go to top